Episode 11: Van and Marlon part 2

Van turns the tables on Marlon and puts him in the “Complicated Corner.” They talk about living a life that isn’t fulfilling through the lens of pastors who realize that they aren’t being called to serve as a leader of a church. And they get into a deeper spiritual discussion than they intended. Get ready to dig into the spiritual muck.

Episode 11: Van and Marlon Part 1

Catch up with Van and Marlon. Marlon was the best man at a wedding, Van went to church camp, and they both had some strange things happen to them in the month of July. In the first half of this two part episode, the guys talk about “living with a sense of urgency,” referencing the life of Zach Sobiech, a teen diagnosed with cancer who created a music album when he was told he had months left to live. The discussion gets pretty serious later on and the guys get spiritually heavier than they ever have before. Van is put in the “complicated corner.”